Curse

Mindcrime · Nov 27, 2005, 09:49 PM // 21:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by trim

Of course, you are going to have some degree of satisfaction without seeing the truth being posted in your thread. If anyone has noticed the majority of the people defending what lbs is doing is lbs members. The ones profiting from the nubs who don't have any idea about running. How long will the arguing stop. In my opinon it shouldn't until the people getting ripped know that they can find a good running build, and perfectly good info. on running for free.

Once again, I am going to explain as easy as possible so everyone understands my view as a member and defender of the Academy.

I don't know how many times you (trim) have said, "A good running build and information is accessible from the internet for free".
Tell me instead what you can't find on the Internet? You can find every bit of information; how to repair a car, how to play Texas hold'em, how to play guitar, how to be a runner in GW.. I can continue like this forever. The problem is still it's no guarantee to success.

I'm not saying that you can't be a good runner by yourself. Because I have no doubt in my mind, that GW has plenty of awesome runners outside the Academy community. Self-taught or a good friend with useful information.

The Academy is here to teach, tip basic/advance/hard runs to new people who are interested into running. Decent runners, who wants to find new challenges and learn the small secrets to step up the ladder. Guess what happens if we set all kinds of different players in one spot with one thing in common (runners) for an new challenge, like the flexible and changing droknar-run. It creates an brainstorm, finding the best build for droknar-run or anything else in terms for running, fighting, trading and playing GW.

The Academy supports honesty and fair judgement and the most valuable thing we can offer a scammer free community, player-vice as customer-vice.

We use upfront/advance payments before providing any kind of run/mission and we're probably the only running-service with customers saying (new customers, who have never talked to us); "Ok, I'll trust you, because you're an LBSRA".

Pay attention to the last sentence again. Because that is what we stand for, trust nothing else, but trust. The Academy wouldn't have existed if all the players followed that simple sentence. An unfortunately GW isn't nicer than the real world either because in every corner, there is an idiot who doesn't care if an player (real person) spent 2 hours running an path for YOU, without getting an simple payment.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blue Steel

Why do we charge 15 ecto? It is a lot of work running the Academy. It is also a threshold that keeps our numbers reasonable for the game economy. Even now we still recieve applications on a daily basis. It filters almost all of the dishonest out. It represents enough of an investment that it helps protect our builds, manuals, videos, and other resources. It shows me that you are serious about learning and running.

The 15 ecto enrollment tuition works in different ways. Balance into the Academy, prevent scammers and protect the information that academy has.
If we lower the enrollment, players can violate the Academy's policy. In another hand if we feel that the Academy is crowded and our time becomes
limited we can raise the enrollment tuition equal to less applications/enrollments.

We provide a one of kind running-service with no limits. If you want a run from Ascalon-Hell's precipice including all missions/all towns/all outpots, if necessary. We can provide that, if you pay in terms how we value our time for our services. The prices are here and feel free to use them or find a cheaper run.

We love to play Guildwars and the Academy is a new challenge to us and to you, if you want to become apart of it.

-Elita-

trim · Nov 27, 2005, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mindcrime

The 15 ecto enrollment tuition works in different ways. Balance into the academy, prevent scammers and protect the information that academy has.
If we lower the enrollment, players can violate the academy's policy. In another hand if we feel that the academy is crowded and our time becomes
limited we can raise the enrollment tuition and lower the applications.
-Elita-

Balance can be achieved by removing the thread off this forum. Theres really no way you can protect the information regardless of how much you ask. Be it 15 ectos or 30 ectos. A person as myself can simply log into a friends guru account. Do the paragraph thing get accepted and post your secrets everywhere. As i have mentioned this before, and am starting to give this some serious consideration.

If anyone is giving any serious thought to forking over 15 ectos (200K) to these guys please think twice. This build is effective in completing the droknars forge run, not to mention many other runs. Just practice with it for awhile and study some maps, and you'll do great. The update has made it more difficult to make the run as many groups are now taking in teams to complete this particular run. As I wouldn't doubt LBS members are doing the same thing if they still have the policy of guranteeing a run.

Gladiators Armor:
Maj Abs.
Maj Vigor.
Minor Tactic
Minor Strength

Balthazars Spirit
Mending
Balanced Stance
Healing Signet (or Endure Pain)
Charge
Sprint
Healing Breeze

Strength 10 + minor strength rune
Healing 8
Tactics 11 + minor tactic rune

A malinons shield and grognars defender should help you out a lot on these runs as well. If you need any help searching for the locations of the skills simply ask anyone in game or run a simple search on this very website or any search engine on the net. You can also try a similar build that has Purge Conditions, Smite Hex, and Holy Veil thrown in it.

Another great way to learn these runs is simply by paying for a few runs at reasonable rates, and watching people complete the runs. You can see where the spawns are as well as the skills that the runners are using. Whatever run it is you want to learn simply put these methods into practice, and you can learn something really fun for rather nothing.

Hockster · Nov 27, 2005, 10:37 PM // 22:37

That sums it up perfectly. Anyone not getting it after that is either a troll, or has a long life of sweeping sidewalks ahead of them.

Jesus trim, you're both. A troll and a sidewalk sweeper for life.

Mindcrime · Nov 27, 2005, 11:01 PM // 23:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by trim

Balance can be achieved by removing the thread off this forum. Theres really no way you can protect the information regardless of how much you ask. Be it 15 ectos or 30 ectos.

If we violated any kind of EULA's rules or GWguru rules this thread wouldn't have existed up-to-date.

Trim, I'm talking to you; and you should have no problem reading my replay above and understand it to 100%. You're not an arrogant young teenager who doesn’t accept other people’s opinions, or what is right or wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trim

A person as myself can simply log into a friends guru account. Do the paragraph thing get accepted and post your secrets everywhere. As i have mentioned this before, and am starting to give this some serious consideration.

Who is the bad guy now?

A true violation to EULA, EVERY honest GW-service in game and maybe GWguru rules. The Academy was created for players, in demand of honesty. Why sabotage something that serious players has worked hard for up-to-date. I can guarantee that there are plenty of players (non-LBS members) here on forum and in game, which will find this offensive and disregard this comment of manners. If you have any kind of dignity in your heart. Forget about LBSRA and move on... this is getting ridiculous. Trim. Seriously.

I talk in good way of perspective for you. I'm not a flamer in any kind, and you won't get any personal
flames from me. I know, how to behave on Internet and in real life. So, please respect the current situation of the
Academy and me.

gslavik · Nov 28, 2005, 01:04 AM // 01:04

umm, how come I remember seeing an "LBS graduate" advertising thirsty runs for 25k with "you, me and four henchies" ...

Mindcrime · Nov 28, 2005, 01:16 AM // 01:16

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Originally Posted by gslavik

umm, how come I remember seeing an "LBS graduate" advertising thirsty runs for 25k with "you, me and four henchies" ...

Yeah, you're right about that fact. Some of us do random advertise in thirsty, when we're bored.

gslavik · Nov 28, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24

Also, one of my guilmates wanted a run by your "graduate" and that runner died 6 times ...

EDIT: so that there is no mistake, I think LBS is a scam and your ecto for no real secrets ...

Mindcrime · Nov 28, 2005, 01:51 AM // 01:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by gslavik

Also, one of my guilmates wanted a run by your "graduate" and that runner died 6 times ...

EDIT: so that there is no mistake, I think LBS is a scam and your ecto for no real secrets ...

I don't know if this is true, but one thing is for sure. And don't take this personal if I'm wrong. Your first two post on guru with your new account created today was within LBSRA-thread. That seems rather suspicious. Don't get me wrong, It's very strange to start off with negative comments in lbsra thread, on the first day of guru?

gslavik · Nov 28, 2005, 01:56 AM // 01:56

I was in thirsty earlier and wanted the run done and saw an ad by an LBS graduate with henchmen but did not have money at the time and when I returned with money (burrowed from guildies), saw another graduate with a partner. when I asked him if there was a price difference and he told me "not really" and that LBS runners with henchmen are really non-graduates and I'm not sure which guy to go with because they were both charging the same amount of money.

this is why I think you are full of BS and not trustworthy ... so now you know where I am comming from

Charr Killer · Nov 28, 2005, 02:03 AM // 02:03

oh i just got a shield that looks just like that: a lil' worse and a lil' better:

gold buckler
16 armor (7 req.)
+38 while ench
-2 dmg while enchanted

found it on a recent griffon farm one of my best farming runs ever!

Mindcrime · Nov 28, 2005, 02:04 AM // 02:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by gslavik

LBS runners with henchmen are really non-graduates and I'm not sure which guy to go with because they were both charging the same amount of money.

All LBS runners do thirsty with 3-4 henchmens.

Provided with ign of customer for proof.

gslavik · Nov 28, 2005, 02:12 AM // 02:12

also, 5k for elona? I got ran for 1k there ...

naix · Nov 28, 2005, 02:17 AM // 02:17

All in all this just seems like one big "get rich quick sceme". If your a rich well known person with common knowledge like running. You can make a "online school" and get rich..er and there is no way you cant say this is a "money sceme" cuz it is or it would be free. What if someone rich like ooo lets say nef made a "trading school" for 15 ecto. Nef is pretty rich and pretty well known on these forums so people would be like "hey he is rich, so can I if i only pay 15 ecto!!" even tho if you have 15 ecto then you know how to get rich anyways so why waste all that money when you could have just bought low/sold high with it and made more money.

Also most run are way over-priced, most places you can get ran there for free or for tips. But these are uber runners so they charge extra :P. Prolly trying to break even for the 15 ecto they dropped on this school.

killer toast · Nov 28, 2005, 02:20 AM // 02:20

^^^^ i wouldnt join that because if you dont know how to trade your....well.....like masterbeef which is retarded

Mindcrime · Nov 28, 2005, 02:22 AM // 02:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by gslavik

also, 5k for elona? I got ran for 1k there ...

3k for elona here, you got it for 1k? I consider that an awesome deal, keep working.

naix · Nov 28, 2005, 02:25 AM // 02:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by killer toast

^^^^ i wouldnt join that because if you dont know how to trade your....well.....like masterbeef which is retarded

Kinda like if you dont know the standard running skills and equipment etc. your well...like you said...a retard

killer toast · Nov 28, 2005, 02:28 AM // 02:28

i didnt join lbs to learn ascalon to grendich courthouse i joined to learn droks runs copper runs thunderheadkeep fight thing ice caves of sorrow runs and things like that

naix · Nov 28, 2005, 02:36 AM // 02:36

Yup yup many people run those. Yet did that drop 200 grand to learn? nope

killer toast · Nov 28, 2005, 02:39 AM // 02:39

i want you to go to thunderhead keep and tell me how many people are fighting it
also go to granite and tell me how many people there are running to war camp or copperhammer

naix · Nov 28, 2005, 02:51 AM // 02:51

Well lots of groups(people) are fighting thunderhead, . But if you say soloing it then id like to see that and for the running to granite to war camp part, just go to beacon and kindly ask a runner to meet you there and then run you or even ask a friend to help you. Even tho it may take more time to find someone. Its better then spending loads on your academys services.